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    Hi
    First of all let me say a BIG thank you for this site! These last few days it's really helped me keep me sanity And sorry for the length of this post...

    I've never had a dog before (lots of cats) let alone a puppy. I'm am now the proud owner of an 12 week old Cockapoo called Bailey. I got Bailey when he was nearly 10 weeks old and had only been used to going on newspaper in his pen. I am on a very steep learning curve!!

    I have been doing your umbilical cord training (visual) for the last 6 days and also keeping a diary this has worked really well and have gone from Bailey refusing to go potty outside the house and only going inside on my carpet... to going nearly all of the time outside . I have managed to catch him going inside three times in the last two days and got him outside to finish off, phew. I have to watch him like a hawk though!

    I have tried a crate but this was very unsuccessful (he eliminated all over it and howled like a banshee) so I gave up on that and got him a pen where he has his bed at one side and puppy pads at the other. This has worked a lot better for all of us. He sleeps really well through the night is very happy with his bedtime routine as is a great place to put him for some puppy frenzy timeout! I take him out really late and get up very early and have him on a feeding schedule but usually come down to his poop etc but on the puppy pads which is what I expected so I'm not too stressed about that.

    My question is though. I am getting a lot of feedback from friends who say he would be better off in a crate and that he would learn to hold it and that their puppy only ever had two accidents in the house and could hold themselves all night in their crate from Bailey's age . I know.... I'm beginning to think they may have a point as I took Bailey out - (success) before taking my son to school, then put him in his pen was gone exactly 10 minutes and he had pooped all over and weed in there. Which of course makes perfect sense to him! Am I confusing matters? If I only go out for a short time should I try the crate? I feel like I'm getting this all wrong and am trying very hard to learn how to speak dog.

    Any advice would be very very welcome as this whole house training is starting to get to me.

    Also I joined a puppy class yesterday and i was the only one that was having (or admitted) to having housetraining problems...

    Thanks

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    Ha! You poor thing... living in a world where everyone else's puppies are instantly perfect and housebroken! Don't stress out about everyone's stories of their perfectly housebroken puppies... it's MUCH more common for people to go through some issues while housebreaking, so believe me, you're not the only one!

    First, I want to be sure that you've read my articles about crate acclimation, crate barking and crate accidents. If you've implemented the suggestions from those articles and your pup is still having a tough time with crating, it can sometimes be helpful to temporarily do the indoor potty training method you've already started... keeping your pup in a pen with pads (or a grass patch, which I prefer for pups who will eventually be trained to go outside only). This buys you some time to slowly work on doing the crate acclimation exercises to get him more comfy in there... be sure to work on crating only when you're sure your pup has just peed and pooped so we know he's as empty as possible and we're setting him up for success. After a couple of weeks or so, you should be able to switch him back to a regular crate training program with minimal fussing.

    All that being said, I think it sounds like you've made a lot of good progress from where you started (Accident City!), so even though you're having some struggles with his housebreaking, you've still accomplished a lot! Hang in there and keep up the good work!!
    Rebecca
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    Thank you Rebecca for answering my long winded post...

    The crate training is going OK after your suggestions! He seems to even like his crate now.

    Had one accident in crate but that was my fault as I thought he was just trying to get a very early release! Not one I'll repeat.

    Bailey is still eliminating on my carpet though. Usually after he's just been outside! There's absolutely no warning. Even my friend who's had dogs all her life commented on the lack of warning... Different spots each time as I'm using the specialist cleaner. Things are much, much better but this is getting me down. I'm hoping with perseverance in will 'click' hopefully soon??

    Thanks again

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    So glad to hear things are improving... yaaaay!

    As for the lack of warning when your pup is about to have an accident in the house, that could be a sign of a bladder or urinary tract issue, but more likely is just a little something we'll call "small fluffy male puppy syndrome"... when they're little, fluffy and male, it's hard to see the pees coming sometimes! They'll just suddenly be standing there looking like they're thinking about something and you realize they're peeing!! Just keep a close eye on him and keep up the umbilical training so you can catch and correct him when he has those little oopsies! Wouldn't worry too much at this point, since you've had a ton of improvement so far... he'll get there!!
    Rebecca
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